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That's when everything went from being Final Fantasy
That's when everything went from being Final Fantasy
VII and started becoming……I still don't even know what to call what happened.
VII and started becoming......I still don't even know what to call what happened.


There's a building in Nibelheim called the Shinra
There's a building in Nibelheim called the Shinra
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black like the Black Materia.
black like the Black Materia.


……It was…..it was grey.
......It was.....it was grey.


That's never been a color of Materia that's existed in
That's never been a color of Materia that's existed in
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(aside from Cloud) since I didn't know what to expect at this point.
(aside from Cloud) since I didn't know what to expect at this point.


But Vincent wasn't there……..
But Vincent wasn't there........


WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! Why was Vincent not in my party
WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! Why was Vincent not in my party
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with him.
with him.


"VINCENT: Please………do…..something."
"VINCENT: Please.........do.....something."


I got to the alcove, and of course I didn't see Aeris
I got to the alcove, and of course I didn't see Aeris
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This time, the fight with Jenova LIFE started
This time, the fight with Jenova LIFE started
immediately. Instead of Aeris' death music, it was…..Vincent's theme that
immediately. Instead of Aeris' death music, it was.....Vincent's theme that
played during combat. Once I got Jenova LIFE down to ½ of its health, the party
played during combat. Once I got Jenova LIFE down to ½ of its health, the party
disappeared the way it did during a summon scene. Vincent then slowly dragged
disappeared the way it did during a summon scene. Vincent then slowly dragged
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were going to use one of his more powerful Limit Break moves. But this time, he
were going to use one of his more powerful Limit Break moves. But this time, he
used an attack called "JENOVA OSMOSIS". He then lunged onto Jenova LIFE
used an attack called "JENOVA OSMOSIS". He then lunged onto Jenova LIFE
and…..started absorbing it.
and.....started absorbing it.


The party members in this fight (other than Vincent)
The party members in this fight (other than Vincent)
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"Obtained IT'S YOUR FAULT"
"Obtained IT'S YOUR FAULT"


.It's your fault?
....It's your fault?


There was never an item titles that in any Final
There was never an item titles that in any Final
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Only Hojo could create someone so cold that he would kill his own mother."
Only Hojo could create someone so cold that he would kill his own mother."


"AERIS: Rest up, Vincent. We'll leave tomorrow….
"AERIS: Rest up, Vincent. We'll leave tomorrow....


.I'm still so very sorry."
....I'm still so very sorry."


Aeris left the room, and now I had control
Aeris left the room, and now I had control
over…Vincent. Cloud was standing at the exit to the bedroom, so I had Vincent
over...Vincent. Cloud was standing at the exit to the bedroom, so I had Vincent
talk to him.
talk to him.


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members. I tried selecting Cloud.
members. I tried selecting Cloud.


"CLOUD: So much sadness……"
"CLOUD: So much sadness......"


I tried selecting Aeris.
I tried selecting Aeris.


"AERIS: The poor guy….."
"AERIS: The poor guy....."


This was what I was afraid of. The messages popped up
This was what I was afraid of. The messages popped up
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this the trigger for his Limit Break transformations? Not the experimentation
this the trigger for his Limit Break transformations? Not the experimentation
that Hojo did, but his own suffering and misery? I couldn't help but let a tear
that Hojo did, but his own suffering and misery? I couldn't help but let a tear
run down my face. What a horrible thing….to see the one person you truly
run down my face. What a horrible thing....to see the one person you truly
love……someone who encased herself in crystal for you…waiting for you to come
love......someone who encased herself in crystal for you...waiting for you to come
back....what a horrible feeling to see that person die in front of your own
back....what a horrible feeling to see that person die in front of your own
eyes.
eyes.
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fact that Aeris lived and Lucrecia died?
fact that Aeris lived and Lucrecia died?


Surprisingly……..no.
Surprisingly........no.


There was no change at all. The next three days were
There was no change at all. The next three days were
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that Vincent has a lot more of the plot revolving around him. He wasn't even an
that Vincent has a lot more of the plot revolving around him. He wasn't even an
accessible party member after the events leading up to Cloud giving the Black
accessible party member after the events leading up to Cloud giving the Black
Materia to Sephiroth so that he can summon Meteor. He just……disappeared from
Materia to Sephiroth so that he can summon Meteor. He just......disappeared from
the party. Nobody said a word about him. The only other change that occurred
the party. Nobody said a word about him. The only other change that occurred
was when I went to the City of the Ancients with Bugenhagen. The whole point of
was when I went to the City of the Ancients with Bugenhagen. The whole point of
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Cloud.
Cloud.


"VINCENT: I came back here to see her….."
"VINCENT: I came back here to see her....."


"…you let her die.
"...you let her die.


"CLOUD: VINCENT, I tried….."
"CLOUD: VINCENT, I tried....."


Vincent's sprite swiped his cape out with his arm.
Vincent's sprite swiped his cape out with his arm.
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Instead. It showed Vincent practicing his combat
Instead. It showed Vincent practicing his combat
skills. On the other side of the training room, behind a glass screen was Hojo
skills. On the other side of the training room, behind a glass screen was Hojo
and…..Grimoire Valentine.
and.....Grimoire Valentine.


What the FUCK was Vincent's father doing here? No
What the FUCK was Vincent's father doing here? No
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Grimoire left.
Grimoire left.


"HOJO: There is one last test I want to try…."
"HOJO: There is one last test I want to try...."


I now saw Vincent in what looked like an interrogation
I now saw Vincent in what looked like an interrogation
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"HOJO: These are augmented pheromones. They're going
"HOJO: These are augmented pheromones. They're going
to increase your more……primitive….desires."
to increase your more......primitive....desires."


Hojo then started laughing as the mist cleared.
Hojo then started laughing as the mist cleared.
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enough to knock her to the ground.
enough to knock her to the ground.


"Vincent......please.....stop........Vincent....WHY?!?!!?"
"Vincent……please…..stop……..Vincent….WHY?!?!!?"


This dialogue in white text was all that was said
This dialogue in white text was all that was said
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read the white text that showed up.
read the white text that showed up.


"Hojo….darling….something wonderful has
"Hojo....darling....something wonderful has
happened…..we're having a boy."
happened.....we're having a boy."


I lost my shit at this point. I stood up, breathing
I lost my shit at this point. I stood up, breathing
heavily into my cupped hands. While it was thought that Hojo was the father of
heavily into my cupped hands. While it was thought that Hojo was the father of
Lucrecia's child…..it was Vincent. She was raped and…..Vincent…not Hojo…..was
Lucrecia's child.....it was Vincent. She was raped and.....Vincent...not Hojo.....was
the father of Sephiroth.
the father of Sephiroth.


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Shinra? The fight with fucking Hojo? Those were all on Disc 2, and I still
Shinra? The fight with fucking Hojo? Those were all on Disc 2, and I still
hadn't done them yet. Reluctantly, I popped in Disc 3. I was greeted with a
hadn't done them yet. Reluctantly, I popped in Disc 3. I was greeted with a
picture of Vincent……as Chaos.
picture of Vincent......as Chaos.


"Please insert the other Disc 3"
"Please insert the other Disc 3"


……..The other Disc 3?
........The other Disc 3?


……The fourth disc that I received?
......The fourth disc that I received?


……I entered the fourth disc.
......I entered the fourth disc.


I was in control of Vincent, and I was in Lucrecia's
I was in control of Vincent, and I was in Lucrecia's
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"VINCENT: After everything you've done to her, to
"VINCENT: After everything you've done to her, to
me……to us. After every abomination you created in the name of science. You
me......to us. After every abomination you created in the name of science. You
deserve to die."
deserve to die."


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"But while you let your cells manipulate you into
"But while you let your cells manipulate you into
endangering the world…."
endangering the world...."


"I use other Jenova cells to make me stronger."
"I use other Jenova cells to make me stronger."


Cloud walked in Vincent, joining (and I can't believe
Cloud walked in Vincent, joining (and I can't believe
I'm saying it)……Vincent's party. Time to see what would happen with A SMALL
I'm saying it)......Vincent's party. Time to see what would happen with A SMALL
SACRIFICE.....
SACRIFICE…..


I opened up the item menu and used it on Vincent.
I opened up the item menu and used it on Vincent.
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I tried one last time.
I tried one last time.


"VINCENT: He's the last one…..before him."
"VINCENT: He's the last one.....before him."


If Vincent could absorb Jenova cells and the life of
If Vincent could absorb Jenova cells and the life of
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"VINCENT: You're the last of what poisons a world that
"VINCENT: You're the last of what poisons a world that
Lucrecia and I could have been happy together in…."
Lucrecia and I could have been happy together in...."


"I don't find you fit to even consider thinking of you
"I don't find you fit to even consider thinking of you
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Sephiroth's evil aura gone now?
Sephiroth's evil aura gone now?


"..There must be another that's holding it down."
".....There must be another that's holding it down."


"..I have to do it, don't I?"
".....I have to do it, don't I?"


"..I'll at least see her one last time."
".....I'll at least see her one last time."


What did Vincent have left to do? Sephiroth was dead,
What did Vincent have left to do? Sephiroth was dead,
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"TIFA: We'll kill you, you son of a bitch."
"TIFA: We'll kill you, you son of a bitch."


"VINCENT:…I don't blame you for hating me. I realize
"VINCENT:...I don't blame you for hating me. I realize
I'm just as twisted as Sephiroth is. But if this has to happen, I'd rather do
I'm just as twisted as Sephiroth is. But if this has to happen, I'd rather do
it on my terms."
it on my terms."
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With a tear in my eye, I selected PERMANENT
With a tear in my eye, I selected PERMANENT
SOLUTION….and used it on Vincent.
SOLUTION....and used it on Vincent.


Another cinema scene
Another cinema scene